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Hi, everyone. Welcome back to the podcast I have here, my friend Stuart. He is a kinesiology. My kinesiology is actually helping me with my foot and, I guess the story I want you to tell us is how and why you became a kinesiology. Yeah, absolutely. So
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probably a couple different things. I would say, number one, who are one of the biggest factors was in 2005, I had reconstructive surgery on my feet, and that was a very unique process.
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I was only 18 years old. I, I basically as I started to grow, my mom started to notice my feet were, you know, turning in. I was kind of standing on the side of my feet. So just a structural abnormality. So I went through the process of seeing several orthopedic surgeons, you know, getting MRI done, lots of different things just to see if they could find the cause, of why my feet were turning in so much.
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The cause was never really determined. Probably genetic. You know, both. My mom was born with club feet. My dad has a very high arch as well. So probably more genetic than anything else, but, yeah. So I went through the process of having that surgery done. I had both feet done at the same time. So I was in basically a wheelchair or bedridden for about six weeks until the cast came off.
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And then I was in walking boots, with crutches for probably another 5 or 6 weeks. And then I couldn't run altogether for about six months. And, you know, I played high school basketball. You know, I started lifting weights, strength training at a pretty young age as well. So I would say that was, a challenging time in my life.
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But I think one of the things that was really beneficial about that whole experience was my, I guess, post-op rehab. I it was not a good experience. So a lot of the people with I, who I worked with, you know, I think my parents had, physio come into our house to help me, especially when I was still in the wheelchair.
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And it was just very, very kind of mundane, very, very basic. There wasn't a lot of chemo progression, and it just seemed like a lot of people didn't know what to do with a foot. Which to me, as a, you know, a young athlete, and I wanted to, you know, go back and play another year of high school basketball.
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And then, you know, just keep being an active individual playing different types of sports, strength training and so on. So I just thought, you know, through that whole process, there's got to be more. The foot is obviously a very complex structure. There has to be more in terms of what we can do for a foot in general.
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Especially, you know, one that's recovering from a surgery or even if, you know, you just have an injury, you say like plantar fasciitis or something, right? So that's one of the major things that I think led me towards, like, just a career in, in rehab. I think I specifically chose kinesiology because of, the sort of the movement foundation.
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I'm very passionate about movement and of course, how that relates to, you know, humans of all ages. I think the importance of, of movement and understanding movement in conjunction with, you know, rehabbing someone, post-surgery or just, you know, throw it in injury is incredibly important because there's only so much we can do on a treatment table. We have to get people up.
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We have to get people interacting with the ground and gravity, especially when you're talking about feet. That's really, really important. So that's kind of the general summary of, you know, one of the main things that drove me into kinesiology and just doing what I do, caring for people, helping them with injuries, helping them to to move better was just my own experience with that surgery.
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And then outside of that, just, you know, I was always active as a kid playing sports. I did start working out at a fairly young age. I was probably like 13, 14, maybe 15. When I started getting into strength training and weightlifting. So that was always kind of an interest of mine. So I think when you put those two things together, that's really what drove me towards, kinesiology.
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And I think it's, you know, a fantastic profession, like I said, very movement oriented. The scope of practice for kinesiology is very, very broad. So there's a lot of things that can be done, as a registered kinesiology, just especially here in Ontario, because we're regulated here in Ontario. But yeah, those are kind of the two main things that drove me to become a kinesiology.
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Okay, I have questions. Yeah. I, when you started working out at 13, who was the driver behind that? Definitely would have been my dad. So my dad, you know, for as long as I can remember, has gone to the, gone to the gym, and, hey, you know, I can remember just like the first few times I went with them, we would do, like, you know, bench press and I could, you know, barely bench the bar.
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Things have gone a lot better since then, but, Yeah. No, it's, it probably my dad. And then just, the drive to be a better athlete, I think I knew I needed to get into the gym to get stronger. Especially with basketball. Like, I was a good, you know, young basketball player. And then just, you know, if I was playing with people older than me, I could see the difference.
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Not necessarily in skill, but in strength. Like, I was getting pushed around and kind of beat up a little bit. So I think, yeah, just the drive to get into the gym, get stronger, put on some muscle mass even just to get a little bit heavier, to kind of hold my own ground as a basketball player is really important.
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So probably those two things. Yeah. Okay. So you had like real world feedback that you needed to gain strength. And that was like a very good clue for you for sure. For sure. Yeah. And I it's funny too, I can even remember like outside of playing high school basketball, you know, I basically lived at our local YMCA and there was always older guys there playing with us.
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And I can just remember this one instance of kind of getting pushed around by a guy who's probably in his, I would think, late 20s, early, early 30s. And I was just like, man, like, why can't I, you know, hold my ground or you know, why is he always, you know, scoring on me so easily? And then I figured, okay, well, you know, you just need to get stronger, hold your ground.
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And then, yeah, you know, started strength training and a lot changed when I, when I did get stronger. So it was cool. Cool. And then in terms of being a kinesiology, was there a conscious decision? Decision between kinesiology? Yes. Physiotherapist like personal trainer. All of those. How did you land upon kinesiology? Yeah. So it was funny when I first, you know, graduated high school, I really, you know, like a lot of high school graduates didn't really know what I wanted to do.
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I think, because I started my post-secondary, schooling at Humber College in Toronto and their fitness and health program. And at that point, it was really my goal just to be a personal trainer, because I knew I like being in the gym. I knew I like strength training, I knew I liked, you know, working with athletes and things like that.
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So I think the original goal was just to be a personal trainer. And that's really what that fitness and health program kind of gears you towards. Once I got into that program, like I couldn't get enough, like I just wanted to, you know, eat up all the information, especially when they're talking about, you know, just the science behind building muscle and the difference between building muscle and gaining strength and of course, those things overlap a little bit, but just the uniqueness of, you know, the nutrition side of things and the gym side of things.
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Like I was just eating all of that information up. So once I was in that program, I found out that there was a bridging program into the University of Guelph. So you just had to do basically a summer semester to get caught up on a couple of courses. So because I love the information so much, I was just like, hey, this seems to be a fit.
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Why don't I keep going into kinesiology? So I did that bridging semester, went into kinesiology and then finished, the four year degree in kinesiology. I did my thesis on sarcopenia, which is age related muscle loss, which I think is a huge factor in today's society and something I'm very passionate about just as it relates to to strength training with older adults especially, does that answer the question?
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I think so, to an extent, yeah. So yeah, I would just yeah, kind of summarize it that way. So now your specialties are so I definitely specialize in functional foot and gait analysis. So I've trained with, Doctor Emily Speckle. She's a functional podiatrist based in the United States. I've done a lot of training with her, both in person and online.
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So that is definitely a specialty of mine. The functional foot gait analysis. But I work with injuries, of all kinds. And then just people who want to, you know, strength train as well. And I guess to take a step back to the last question, why I didn't go on to be a physio, because when I graduated with the Kinne degree, I was done with school.
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I did not want more school, even though I've done a lot of continuing education after, my formal degree. Yeah, I was done with kind of the formal education side of things for sure. And then I, you know, kind of since then, I've just seen the, the progression of the, the profession of kinesiology within Ontario, because when I first graduated, it was not a regulated profession.
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So since then we've become regulated. That was back in, I think, 2013. So it's it's a growing profession, and I want to keep pushing it forward. What does that mean to you to push the, profession forward. Good question. No I think it's there, there's because there's so much you can do with a kinesiology degree. If you get to that point where you're like, hey, you know, I don't want to do two more years or four more years with, you know, chiropractor, or, you know, go on to be something like an MD, maybe that schooling is is not for you.
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You know, it's important to, I think, realize or to help people understand that you can have a kinesiology degree, be a regulated kinesiology within Ontario and have, an immensely successful career. You know, as you know, I'm in the process of getting my own clinic and business up and running. And it's been great so far. It's.
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Been a great experience, a lot of learning obviously with any, you know, startup business. But, I think it's it's really important to me, just, especially to help newer kinesiology grads understand that, hey, if you're ready to be done with school, there are so many opportunities as kinesiology is. And, it's a great profession to be in and with kinesiology, kind of like what I've done in terms of, you know, more specializing in foot and gait analysis, you can find that niche within kinesiology because it's such a such a broad topic, essentially.
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And I think the important work that you do is you probably have guess that I'm not super consistent with my exercises, but like going through it together with you has been really helpful. Even, like, I feel like you're teaching how to kind of help the problem go away versus just a mask or a stretch or something.
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And that's. Yeah, that's that's so important for me. You know, when I'm working with individuals, you know, I've got a few clients in their late 70s, even 80 years old. It doesn't matter if I'm working with a ten year old or an 80 year old. I want that education to be there. I want you to understand why we're doing what we're doing, and then I want to empower you to be able to fix yourself.
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Yes, it's great that people can come see me. I always want to help people, but I think it's more powerful and it's going to have a better long term effect. If you understand your own body and can therefore, you know, make the necessary changes, to, you know, whether it's eliminate knee pain or just move better as a human being.
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Unknown
And I think that's something that is missing in a lot of the health care world. It's just, you know, you lie on a table, get a little bit of a Band-Aid treatment, and then, yeah, it probably feels better. But then that pain is going to come back, whether it's in two days or two months, you know, getting to the root of the problem and then helping the clientele, understand what that problem is and what they need to do long term to be able to really just own their own health.
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And that's you're always going to have the best outcomes when you educate and help people understand why they're in pain and how they can eliminate that pain. I think especially in the health care field, it's really rare to find practitioners that, like, don't want you to come anymore. Yeah, because that's how they maintain their business model and how their business stays alive.
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They want you to come regularly. So I think it's awesome the work that you're doing and the education that you teach like in your sessions as well. Can you talk about maybe success story. Yeah. I mean I could probably think of a few off the top of my head. One, I had a 78, 78 year old, female start with me back in.
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I think it was February.
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Honestly, for someone who's 78, she's already in tremendous shape. She's taken very good care of herself, but she's, you know, had a few things, you know, through the years, like most of us do.
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She's had, I think, you know, a fuzed big toe, a hip replacement on the other side, some on again, off again back pain. And then, of course, just, you know, natural things that come with aging, you know, fear of falling, right? Because you don't want to fall and break a hip. Obviously that's going to, you know, set you back and you're going to lose, you know, a lot of muscle mass or even balance as a result of that.
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But yeah, so she started coming, I think, towards the end of February. And one of her main goals was just to be able to balance on one leg. When we first started her side, that was, had the hip replacement, like she couldn't balance for more than maybe 2 or 3 seconds. She had just absolutely no ability to stand on that one leg.
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And that's something that's incredibly important to consider as we age, because our ability to walk with good flow and a good stride length, balance is incredibly important because every time we take a step, we're on one leg. So, her balance went from, you know, 1 to 2 seconds and then just through different techniques that I use to help with balance, you know, a combination of actually, you know, training your brain, getting your nervous system to work a little bit more effectively, helping her to feel her foundation, her feet a little bit more effectively with some strength training for the hips.
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You know, we got her balance all the way up to, you know, 30, 35 seconds. And that's not even just on a flat surface that can be on like a little bit of a wobble board as well. And, honestly, the the look on her face the first time she, she was able to balance for about 30s was like, that's why I do what I do.
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Right. And it's it's such a rewarding career to again take somebody like that who again, you know, she's, a prime example of, you know, you can keep your body in really good condition as you age. But there were just some minor factors that were missing from what she was doing. You know, she was doing aqua fit. She would go on regular walks.
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For me again, it was just she was missing the balance component. She wasn't really training her balance in any way. And then she wasn't doing a lot of strength training either. So that's, you know, the two things that we've really ramped up for her getting stronger and then just giving her more confidence while she's on one foot, essentially.
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And that can go a long way for, like I said, improving your ability to walk as you continue to age, because that's actually, you know, what a lot of people refer to as the seventh vital sign. Or you could you could say it's, it's a predictor of our longevity. You're talking about balance. I'm talking about walking right, specifically.
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Right. So if we decrease our stride length and decrease our speed with age, that's a predictor of our longevity, right? So we want to keep our walking speed and our walking stride length kind of what it was, you know, when we were 20, 30, 40 years old, all the way up until, you know, 80, 90 years old as much as possible, because that is going to, again, help us maintain that ability to live independently and just kind of live and move as we were meant to.
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So many tidbits in there. Okay. So that was a huge success. I mean, balance, not only is it good for walking, but just in elderly age, if you're falling, the better your balance, the less totally. Yeah. And that falling is just huge for when people break their hips. Absolutely incredible. So what are some of the biggest things people can focus focus on when they're looking at health and fitness?
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And it's overwhelming and they don't know what to do. What are the top two important things for you? Just like very general. Yeah. For health and fitness. That's a good question. I would say probably two things. Probably strength training to me would be number one, because maintaining muscle mass on our body as we age is going to, keep your metabolic rate high when our metabolic rate drops or our metabolic health, depreciates, we run into a lot of, internal issues, that can affect your heart health, that can affect your, you know, ability to process carbohydrates and sugars as you consume them.
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Just so many negative things will happen as your metabolic health goes down. Now, as I mentioned earlier, I did my thesis on sarcopenia, my last year in university and, you know, sarcopenia being age related, muscle loss. We have to appreciate that as we age, we will naturally lose muscle unless we purposefully do something about it. So the two things you can do or a consume enough protein and then be strength training.
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Right. Those two things are going to help maintain your muscle mass, which ultimately leads to just easier daily activities. If someone comes and tells me, oh, I have such a hard time going from sitting to standing or climbing stairs, I get so fatigued so quickly. All of those things can be easier if we just keep muscle mass on our body, right?
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So that would probably be number one for me. Again, strength training because of what it does to our metabolic health. And then like I said, it just makes life easier. If we have muscle mass we can move. And you know, pick things up off the floor, go from sitting to standing, and we don't have to think twice about it.
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Unknown
Secondly, I would say probably just cardiovascular health. Oftentimes people will say, you know, strength training is going to improve your quality of life, and cardiovascular health will improve the length of your life. So I think those two things are probably the most important. And I and I mean, really, that's the two main facets of kind of fitness, right?
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Both strength and then the cardiovascular, part of it. So I would say those two things are the most important for easier activities of daily living and then cardiovascular health, just to really improve your, your lifespan. Ultimately, they've done, you know, a lot of studies to show that decrease cardiovascular health will decrease your lifespan or something. They test frequently.
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Unknown
Is that VO2 max or how much oxygen you can take in and utilize during your high intensity exercise? So definitely strength training and cardio. And I would say things like balance are a part of strength training. If you are strong, maintaining muscle mass, you will have better balance for sure. But I think that's the, you know, goes to show the importance of strength training.
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When we are doing that, it shouldn't all be on two legs. We need to get on one leg. We need to challenge our muscles while we're in one leg because that's what walking is, right? You're one foot after the other. And then ideally, you know, running to, you know, ideally, we never stop running. We never stop jumping.
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We never stop moving our body again the way it was supposed to. Just because we're getting a little bit older does not mean we should stop certain activities. Yes, I would say as we get older, we need to be more cautious with those activities to, you know, just think injury prevention. But overall, yeah, I would say those two things, strength training and cardiovascular health for sure.
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I just wanted to say your thing about doing single leg work, that was my issue. Yeah. I only did barbell work and it wasn't until I had my foot injury where I had to stop and.
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Down, where I noticed that my two legs were very uneven in terms of strength. So, which might have led to the foot injury. Kind of. Right. And then second thing I wanted to note, you're saying strength training and cardiovascular training. And my question is those are two different things, right? You don't train them together. You can train them together.
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That's a different two different goals. Yeah. To an extent to train them like most effectively. Yeah. I would say if your goal is just building strength and building muscle, you should not be incorporating like cardiovascular exercise into that. Not to say that you can't, but to separate them. It's probably a little bit easier because we're looking to maximize our muscle, which I think most people should.
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Unknown
Yeah. Because again, you can do like bootcamp style workouts, circuit training style workouts. Are you going to build muscle? Probably, especially if you're somewhat deconditioned going into that. But we have to understand that, you know, to build muscle, there are a lot of things that are required, you know, progressive overload. So progressively, you know, increasing the volume, whether it be with weights or reps or sets.
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That's really important, the progressive overload. Also, you can consider things like time under tension. So the amount of time that you can continue to move the weight, you know, without having to actually take a break. So, for example, if I'm doing something like a squat and I load up a bar or hold a kettlebell or whatever it may be, and I do say 12, maybe 15 reps, it's going to benefit me more to take a nice maybe 96 second rest and then do that same weight and try and get that same volume again, than it is for me to do a set of squats at 15 reps and then turn around and do
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a plank, and then some ab work, and then maybe some push ups, because you're going to get to the point where you're so out of breath that you can no longer maintain that same volume of squat. So do your set of squats. Take a break, let yourself recover, and then you can go back and do that same set of squats.
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You know, maybe you have to get a little bit lighter as you go along in your set, but ultimately yeah, the importance of, you know, just those progressive overload time under tension to elicit, the muscle building strength response that you want. Okay. And I know you haven't tried it, but would you consider Pilates to be strength training?
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It's, opening a can of worms here. So, personally, I would say no again. You know, I've said this, I love plots. I think it's fantastic for a lot of different reasons. I think it's really hard to truly build muscle with something like Pilates. And that's because those two things that I just talked about now, you you can get time under tension when you're doing something like, you know, reformer work with Pilates, or even not work with Pilates, but it's really hard to progressively overload.
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Unknown
So I think when it comes to pure strength training, you have to use weights. You have to use, again, weights that you can continually and, you know, progress gets stronger, in order to really build muscle. And then, of course, probably the biggest factor in building muscle is nutrition. Like if you are not consuming enough calories, let alone protein, you will not grow muscle.
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I agree that was a leading question. Yeah. Okay. Okay. This has been I think very packed with information. Is there anything you feel that is missing that you feel like people just need to walk away with a message for them? I mean, probably because I'm so passionate about movement, longevity, just the ability to continue to move well as we age.
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I would just say, like, never let age be a reason why you stop moving. Continue to move your body with age. And again, this, you know, movement can look, you know, different for everybody. You don't have to be, you know, in the gym, you know, back squatting 225 pounds, you can be at home holding a 10 or 15 pound kettlebell and, you know, reap some of the same rewards.
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But I would just say movement, you know, should be at the forefront of, you know, what we do on a daily basis if we want to, you know, really age well and maintain our health as we age. And that goes for, you know, everything cardiovascular health, joint health. There's so many benefits to to movement. That should be, like I said, just at the forefront of, you know, every day we get up, you know, thinking, okay, how am I going to move today even if we have a desk job?
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What can you do? Can you get up every hour for, you know, five, ten minutes? There was actually a study done, and they measured, people's blood sugar levels. The one group basically got up from their desk every hour, and all they did was 15, er, squats. There was no weight, nothing else, just 15 er squats. And I think this was done over like A34 month period.
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The other group did nothing. And the people who just got up every hour and did 15 er squats had much better test results in like stable blood sugar levels, ultimately better metabolic health, which is what I was alluding to earlier. Just by doing those 15 er squats every hour. Right. It doesn't take much. We just have to prioritize it.
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And then pro tip something I learned later in life that your calves are basically your second heart. Correct. So if you can't get up you can just go like this. Your calves get that fluid moving back to your heart. Absolutely. Yeah. Catchphrases are great. Think of your calf muscle as your second heart. Absolutely. So if people want to find out more about you, learn from you, be your client.
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Where can they find you? Online. So you can check out my Instagram page. It is barefoot underscore Canada. And then, of course, if you want to reach out to me via Instagram or of course, you can reach out to Tina to get my phone number, email, whatever, whatever you need. And you also travel around conferences, right?
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I do. Yeah, I do a fair bit of traveling, both in the States, sometimes in Canada as well. I teach courses on feet. And then, yeah, I do some traveling for another company called Nimble Soul as well. We sell a lot of different products that are very sensory based. So really good for your hands, your feet stimulating the nervous system, and so on and so forth.
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Okay. Awesome. Yeah. So people might run into you at one of those, too. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much for this episode. I really feel like people can walk away with a lot of good information. So. Yeah. Thank you for your time. Yeah. Of course. My pleasure.
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Hi everyone. Thank you so much for making it to the end of the episode. If you live in Windsor, Essex County area in Ontario, Canada, then you should know that I host an open mic live storytelling event the last Saturday of every month at Alo Lounge on Erie Street in Little Italy from 5 to 7 p.m..
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If you don't know what open mic storytelling is, while I encourage anyone to come up and share their story,
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we don't really get too much of this
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anymore.
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It is essentially a gathering of the souls and sharing a little part of ourselves with each other, whether it be a funny story, a sad story, a happy story, a romantic story, any story that is yours
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you can share
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and I'm loving the community that is coming from this event. So
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come to the event. I hope to see you there. You can purchase tickets at tales of the town aka.
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